Anger issues???

[Nemkris]

Progesterone stops the aromatization of T into estrogen, and estrogen is a stress hormone so in any case it'd be best to be high T instead of high estrogen. It also has strong GABAergic properties so it should make you feel more calm as well. Too much of it can be anti-androgenic (aka it slows muscle growth) so be cautious.

If you do think it's a hormonal problem then any manner of changes can be implemented. When/what you eat, environmental stressors, taking on hobbies that excite you (boredom is a bad state to be in), etc. One should also consider their health in a big picture sense as well: Do you have digestion problems? Are your hands and feet cold? Do you feel depressed or prone to procrastination/laziness? Do you sleep well? Does your body crave weird foods? All of these could be indicators of something: high cortisol, high adrenaline, high serotonin, etc.

I got a friend who's quite irritable and prone to red-faced anger... I suspect he's hypoglycemic. People go crazy when they don't get that macro.

If you're serious about trying progesterone I would recommend Progest-E from electricalbody(dot)com. Further sources on supplements and whatnot can be found at toxinless(dot).com.

My cortisol level is very high despite being very skinny. I don't think I eat that unhealthily either. Maybe too much sweets or not enough vegetables?

 

[pissballsack]

Progesterone stops the aromatization of T into estrogen, and estrogen is a stress hormone so in any case it'd be best to be high T instead of high estrogen. It also has strong GABAergic properties so it should make you feel more calm as well. Too much of it can be anti-androgenic (aka it slows muscle growth) so be cautious.

Thank you again. I am scrimping by as a college student but I will see if I can budget in some supplements such as you have recommended. I am just worried about going to prison from killing or seriously injuring someone so I will probably make room. I think my unlocked morality combined with anger is a dangerous combination. I am currently cutting so I am not to bothered by slow growth because I am trying to maintain in my caloric deficit.

If you do think it's a hormonal problem then any manner of changes can be implemented. When/what you eat, environmental stressors, taking on hobbies that excite you (boredom is a bad state to be in), etc. One should also consider their health in a big picture sense as well: Do you have digestion problems? Are your hands and feet cold? Do you feel depressed or prone to procrastination/laziness? Do you sleep well? Does your body crave weird foods? All of these could be indicators of something: high cortisol, high adrenaline, high serotonin, etc.

I skip breakfast most days or eat toast. I eat two (2) peanut butter sandwiches for lunch with 4 applesauce containers (total around 700 calories). For dinner I eat two (2) hamburgers with ketchup (around 700 calories). For desert when I get a sugar craving I eat frozen blueberries with a shitload of no fat rediwhip (goy slop but its the lowest calorie sugar fix I could devise) (its like 100-150 calories for a giant bowl). So my diet is crap right now but when I finally am done cutting and can go to maintenance I can add back more nutritious food thank God. My hobby is reading and I love it so no problem there. And a little video gameing / anime enjoying. My digestion is alright could be better. I need to get more fiber but I don't like cabbage and all that so I'm okay with my one (1) per day poop that is semi hard. Not a perfect banana on the poop scale but the semi dried up banana. My sleep is solid as I workout a lot during the day and sleep like a rock from it. The problem is on Sunday night I cant sleep before a workday for some reason and so am almost always sleep deprived on monday. I used to have chronic insomnia from middle school WOW guiding but have mostly overcum that issue. My hands are not cold to me but idk. My body temperature is higher than normal because I prefer cold weather than the average person even as a 18% body fat man in my current state. I am not depressed except when I allow myself to wallow in despair but I really choose to do this as a pleasurable activity not as a default state. I am not lazy currently. I crave sugar and sometimes salt, I am going to start adding salt to my burgers because craving salt is a very strange feeling and I'm pretty sure it means I'm deficient.

I got a friend who's quite irritable and prone to red-faced anger... I suspect he's hypoglycemic. People go crazy when they don't get that macro.

If you're serious about trying progesterone I would recommend Progest-E from electricalbody(dot)com. Further sources on supplements and whatnot can be found at toxinless(dot).com.

As I said before I am totally calm and serene but then I SNAP. I get angry probably once every three (3) months. But it is almost always a murderous rage that ends in the destruction of my own property. Or it is accompanied by insane actions that I wonder how I could possibly do such a thing afterward. So I do not see a commonality with your friend and my condition. And as I said this type of anger is consistent with my whole life and with the whole life of my father. SO unfortunately I think it is an inherited trait that I would have to overcum using non-natural means.

I am under the most amount of stress I have ever been under in my life right now so I think I need to up my defesive game so that as I said I do not get into trouble.

Thank you again for your recommendation of supplements supply websites. And constructive posts all over this website. The forum has greatly improved with your arrival. I will bring them into my purchasing consideration. Normally I buy nearly everthing on amazon. Is there a reason you reccomend these sites over amazon? Just hatred for bezos or some other reason?

 

[Hank Wimbleton Groyper]

Maybe I should look into ways to lower my estrogen. It sounds like it could help with no-fap. Funny thing is that not much gets me mad IRL but I absolutely freak out because of video games sometimes.

From my own experiences Progest-E just puts you in a good mood and eros feels less frustrated - this is distinct, because in the health world libido naturally increases the more nutrients the body receives (which is why red meat stimulates libido but becoming a Kelloggian graincel inhibits it), but libido from estrogen feels inflamed and secretly unpleasant, like an irritation or itch.

I've been trying to think of a stack of supplements that help with nofap without neutering yourself. Along with Progest-E I would add anything that lowers nitric oxide (a common ingredient in dick pills), such as aspirin, niacinamide, incandescent light, and methylene blue (that last item though is really complex and words of caution can never be overstated)

Lifting will also, theoretically, help you simply because the body does not have enough blood to supply an erection and the muscles at the same time... exercise however will also stimulate nitric oxide production (the thing that makes your arms look cool and veiny) as blood pressure decreases and an alternative vasodilator (Co2 is the default one) is needed.... so be aware of that

Of course most chronic gooners in this part of the internet usually engage in it because they are in a highly depressive state and gooning is usually a stress response that becomes a habit - I assume most of these people were already in a bad mood before they convinced themselves to engage in the act. So naturally as environmental sources of stress are dealt with and the body's hormonal profile is corrected rationality should return a little bit. People always do things they regret when their cortisol is too high.

 

[Hank Wimbleton Groyper]

I skip breakfast most days or eat toast. I eat two (2) peanut butter sandwiches for lunch with 4 applesauce containers (total around 700 calories). For dinner I eat two (2) hamburgers with ketchup (around 700 calories). For desert when I get a sugar craving I eat frozen blueberries with a shitload of no fat rediwhip (goy slop but its the lowest calorie sugar fix I could devise) (its like 100-150 calories for a giant bowl). So my diet is crap right now but when I finally am done cutting and can go to maintenance I can add back more nutritious food thank God. My hobby is reading and I love it so no problem there. And a little video gameing / anime enjoying. My digestion is alright could be better. I need to get more fiber but I don't like cabbage and all that so I'm okay with my one (1) per day poop that is semi hard. Not a perfect banana on the poop scale but the semi dried up banana. My sleep is solid as I workout a lot during the day and sleep like a rock from it. The problem is on Sunday night I cant sleep before a workday for some reason and so am almost always sleep deprived on monday. I used to have chronic insomnia from middle school WOW guiding but have mostly overcum that issue. My hands are not cold to me but idk. My body temperature is higher than normal because I prefer cold weather than the average person even as a 18% body fat man in my current state. I am not depressed except when I allow myself to wallow in despair but I really choose to do this as a pleasurable activity not as a default state. I am not lazy currently. I crave sugar and sometimes salt, I am going to start adding salt to my burgers because craving salt is a very strange feeling and I'm pretty sure it means I'm deficient.

...There's so much to nitpick about this diet but it would just be self-gratifying pedantry +the food items prolly aren't the cause of your problems. I'll just say that peanut butter is a source of PUFA which isn't as healthy as mainstream science makes it out to be (it's the same fat present in seed oils after all.) But you seem to be a physically fit guy so it's most likely not a big deal for you, and more importantly you shouldn't stress out over minute details in your diet - since stress is the thing we're trying to eliminate here!

Table sugar and frozen berries are a perfectly fine method of getting your carbs... or at least that's exactly where I get my carbs too since I'm being economic with my diet as well. And yeah cravings are highly indicative of something important in the body. I found out I was copper deficient after learning that zinc depletes copper and that I had noticeable cravings for (specifically dark) chocolate and potatoes - both sources of copper coincidentally. (I also learned that zinc supplementation increases libido so be aware of that...)

Definitely don't spend more money on supplements than you need to. I've prolly splurged 500$ on supplement-o pops ("Oh my fauci, is that a limited edition dual-pack of liquid vitamin D3 supplements with no cheap additives? Shut up and take my money, kind stranger!") and prolly have not gotten a good return on most of them. I notice less results from swallowing dozens of pills than from simply putting sugar and milk in my zogfee (zog coffee). There's also the weird phenomenon where if the body receives a billion supplements all at once every day they all just kinda cancel each other out. The best advice I received was to only buy to eliminate existing negative debuffs, not to establish positive buffs.

I only recommend the toxinless website because these aren't dino gummies, they're hormones and compounds that can easily disturb the body's current state. I heard that if something wrong is done during the production of pregnenolone it creates a sort of pseudo-estrogen. So best to ensure it's a good product. I do get a lot of stuff from amazon though, and they're all the simpler stuff and usually from the Now Foods brand - things like glycine, GABA, etc. Also, Ray Peat - the guy who inspired most of what's being written here - says that Progesterone synergizes well with vitamin E, and his Progest-E is a bit obscure and won't be found on Amazon.

If you're looking to save money I would recommend potatoes. I don't know about their caloric content but they're basically free nutrients, can be added to anything. Boil, stir-fry, bake, microwave in a bowl with some water and a covering, etc. Eat it with meat, other veggies, dairy, etc. Produce in general (carrots, onions, peppers, etc) and constituent food items (eggs, milk, sour cream, ground beef) are all fairly cheap, though you seem already to be doing that so w/e. It seems you're trying to minimize fat more than anything which is fine. There are studies with a ratio of 5% calories being fat and the mice doing fine (the PUFA-treated ones got fatter than the saturated fat-treated ones though...). Low fat high carbs will prolly speed your cut up quite a bit. You could really go insane by making coconut oil your primary source of fat since it has some really strange properties in the body and people don't seem to gain weight by eating it. If anything it'll prolly make you hungrier. It also has specific interactions when consumed with sugar that allows your body to regulate blood glucose levels, glycogen stores (which helps with sleep btw), and even glucose metabolism, which might just make you explode. It's a bit expensive though so your choice.

The only other supplements I recommend - simply because I notice they have helped me, and I am a very insensitive person biologically speaking - are Vitamin K2 MK4 and Progest-E. Progest-E simply because the positive mood is quite noticeable and can be used in the morning or at night... Vitamin E shouldn't be mixed with Vitamin K2 btw because it causes negative reactions for some reason (look I'm not that educated on this stuff I've just memorized dozens of factoids) so if you do get both either stall the doses or take different application methods (such as topical.)
Vitamin K2 because it's quite safe and only seems to have good benefits: Inadvertently promotes testosterone, anti-cortisol (helps with sleep btw), promotes calcium metabolism (might be important for you since you're not getting calcium from any dairy sources), regulates blood pressure due to blood coagulation, reduces inflammation, and the list goes on. Apparently it also makes your bones bigger (Oh yeah, bone health is the MAIN health benefit that mainstream supplement producers use to advertise it). My peers usually get the Thorne brand (available on Amazon) or the slightly more economical Kuinone from Georgi Dinkov's Idealabs website... which is independently run and I'm pretty sure the product is labeled as research or cosmetic to avoid lawsuits.

There are a few more things to consider, but I am less serious about these:
Aspirin. I only bring it up because Aspirin can be dangerous to the liver or to your blood thickness, but both of these problems are resolved by taking vitamin K2! So now its anti-oxidant, thyroid-stimulating, inflammation-preventing, stress-reducing, glucose-oxidation-promoting, and numerous other qualities are available at little cost!... I don't really notice much when I take it though.
GABA/neurotransmitters/mood regulators. These are relatively safe things that might affect your mood. They include GABA, glycine, taurine, L-theanine, and more...... I don't really know much about them though. There's a guy called @ grimhood on twitter who talks about them a lot I guess (and he disagrees with a few of Peat's beliefs so he's not dietarily biased); and you can do independent reading or ask peatbot(dot)com about them. All available on Amazon and some of them even at your local store... though my experience with walmart-brand supplements has been quite lacking in terms of their effects. L-theanine is available in tea btw
Carrots - Good source of fiber and can help reduce endotoxins which are a little bit responsible for both serotonin and adrenaline.
Magnesium Glycinate (Or hcl, mostly unimportant). This supposedly helps mitigate stress, somewhat helps sleep, helps digestion, and is a general nutrient that one might not be getting if no vegetables or nutrient-rich foods (such as liver or oysters) are consumed.
Thiamine. You prolly don't need this. I only bring it up because it has several roles in the mitochondria's metabolic process and general wellbeing and can be depleted with excess consumption of refined sugar. TakeThiamine on twitter shills it (r/namechecksout)

 

[muttonhead]

im angry.

 

[SowiesoGroyp]

the obvious yet controversial solution to this thread

 

[Hank Wimbleton Groyper]

the obvious yet controversial solution to this thread

Unironically if it's something you simply enjoy eating then it will physically improve your mood. Eating things you hate will in some ways make you worse off, even if the food is nutritious. (#HailZogslop)