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<blockquote data-quote="AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" data-source="post: 16878" data-attributes="member: 376"><p>Jay dyer was a trad cat for years and fully believed in it then he became atheist / he said he got into kaballa lmao, then converted to orthodoxy. So as all converts do he has a hatred for his previous beliefs and channels that hatred for himself into debate with opponents. He fully understood the trad catholic position (to his previous ability) and fully understands the orthodox view / his own made up stuff that most do not dedicate any time to learning and so he has an advantage in any debate with these young guys that dont even have a full understanding of their own position. Its like ben shapiro owning college libs. It dosent make ben shapiro right just because his opponents are ignorant. I am just saying these young guys should not debate untill they have a full mastery of their own position an the opponents position which is inherently not possible for someone that is 20 years old to have if the topic is as deep as religion and theology.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, post: 16878, member: 376"] Jay dyer was a trad cat for years and fully believed in it then he became atheist / he said he got into kaballa lmao, then converted to orthodoxy. So as all converts do he has a hatred for his previous beliefs and channels that hatred for himself into debate with opponents. He fully understood the trad catholic position (to his previous ability) and fully understands the orthodox view / his own made up stuff that most do not dedicate any time to learning and so he has an advantage in any debate with these young guys that dont even have a full understanding of their own position. Its like ben shapiro owning college libs. It dosent make ben shapiro right just because his opponents are ignorant. I am just saying these young guys should not debate untill they have a full mastery of their own position an the opponents position which is inherently not possible for someone that is 20 years old to have if the topic is as deep as religion and theology. [/QUOTE]

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