most overrated artist of all time(s)

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...probably 2pac.
 

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i'm not a fan of david memewie and generally agree with scaruffi's assessment of his musical ability.

memewie even turned his own death into a meme. the quintessential meme musician, the final victory of memes over music
 

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drake. 2pac has a few songs that i like but there’s nothing there for me with drake.

outside of music banksy is still insanely overrated.
 

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i would say if you're reading this it's too late and take care are considered critically acclaimed, but ya generally it’s agreed that he’s simply a pop act
 

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the rolling stones tend to be lumped in with the beatles. definitely overrated
 

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i would say if you're reading this it's too late and take care are considered critically acclaimed, but ya generally it’s agreed that he’s simply a pop act
take care has a weighted average of 78 on metacritic. drake is disproportionately acclaimed by unserious sources like rolling stone and non-music news outlets. he's kind of like taylor swift in that regard, where some "critics" will rave about the counterintuitive, underappreciated deep side of the artist most critics consider to be slop for idiots.
 

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Just finished reading the Scaruffi article about the Beatles. It definitely clarified some things for me.

i have mixed feelings about the beatles, but this polemic vastly overstates how "late" the beatles were to various trends and innovations. in reality, although they usually weren't the absolute first (and thus can't be said to have made many technical innovations), they usually weren't far behind, and they experimented with a much wider variety of production techniques and instrumental variations than the vast majority of their contemporaries. during the critical period of 1965~1967, there are only a handful of bands that really pushed pop/rock music in new directions. from 1968 onward, all bets were off, and you could then find random obscure bands experimenting, in large part because "starting a band" to "record an album" was becoming much more popular among young musicians.

in a proper telling of music history, the beatles are more of a pop act than a rock band, but so are the beach boys. that doesn't mean they didn't elevate the artform, building on innovations made by phil spector or joe meek. i do still believe that the velvet underground was the true innovative "experimental rock" band, authentic to the spirit of rock music and indicative of where rock music would actually go (punk). their legacy is different from that of the beatles and the beach boys. and that's okay :smile:

also frank zappa's music just kinda sucks
 

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a big reason why i shill Pärson Sound so hard is because it can't be overstated how much of a big deal it was for them to be making that in 1966~1967 instead of 1968~1969. those 2 years make all the difference when we're talking about innovation vs imitation...
 
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