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Message: <blockquote data-quote="alphamale" data-source="post: 22598" data-attributes="member: 388"><p>Either way I don't think they're horrible. My general philosophy, being that I'm not a leader, is to be fine with groups like PF and let them do their thing, even if I think they are misguided or going to get set up eventually. It's no skin off my (long) nose. With that said, I also take the same mentality with people who try to discredit or warn about PF. It's all part of an ecosystem and as long as the drama between groups is less than the virality/momentum of the groups, things are heading in the right direction. The details of who wins exactly and how are too vague and unpredictable since we're a long way out from any sort of real winning.</p></blockquote><p></p>