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<blockquote data-quote="Gornostay" data-source="post: 17141" data-attributes="member: 344"><p>I don't know what the fuck you're saying and don't care enough to click back through five back and forth quoted paragraphs in long posts for context. When this kind of exchange is happening it's best to present your thoughts in context rather than relying on the quote chain. "<em>x</em> is the bigotry of low expectations". I don't care enough to reverse engineer this pithy comment and get it to make sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p>We make things that already exist again because our consumer class is retarded and afraid of both new and old things. The answer our wise community elders such as Sphere Hunter have landed on is that all of our most advanced resources of media production should be spent making things that already exist again but superficially <em>new</em> so that we can all pretend to be excited and act like we have a new thing but not actually encounter anything we haven't seen before. Perfect. The whole energies of our media industries spent comforting people who are afraid to go on magipack or experience something by themselves without a video essay that came out last week telling them what to think.</p><p></p><p>That and apparently we made a fourth Minions movie. I don't think that's comparable to Kamen Rider: Black Sun or Godzilla Minus One.</p><p></p><p></p><p>[...]</p><p></p><p>The fact you and so many others care about what are considered frivolous genre works by their creators obviously suggests something overwhelmingly superior in this culture. Beyond that you can call this behaviour a <em>problem</em>, but it's a problem you have, not one they have. </p><p></p><p>You can't suggest that they would be <em>better</em> if they treated their work as a completely different class of activity. The attitude and process that produced Haruhi is the same one that means it'll probably never end. When you ask for a purposeful drive toward an ending in such a working you're asking for it to be what it is but also not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>These people can't meaningfully care about anything. The people who matter become bigger fans of Japan the higher up the human family you look.</p><p></p><p>Imagine if you had spent that time watching The Office. It could be so much worse. You are incidentally touching upon far better things while staring at Japan's lowest stuff.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can try to make a kind of sense of this. You're saying it's better to go back and look through anything that could be potentially interesting rather than things you can only appreciate as you engage with them alongside others in a frivolous and passing fashion? Yes, that's the problem I described above.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Seasonal anime is still television. An inherently low format that will only be good for so much. The fact we can even consider there could be something of interest there in one country's niche of animated television is remarkable. Did your declining interest in anime coincide with it getting worse, or did you just develop broader interests and watch most of the older stuff that interested you?</p><p></p><p>Everyone loves Frieren now. I read the manga. I think it's very interesting and compelling stuff for a work obviously made for this kind of passing popular format. It's very cool that this is still possible. Was there ever a period where 4 random series would be amazing every season and something has fundamentally changed since then? Or is this "season" format for the entertainment of a certain class of person in a certain place in life, which no longer includes you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gornostay, post: 17141, member: 344"] I don't know what the fuck you're saying and don't care enough to click back through five back and forth quoted paragraphs in long posts for context. When this kind of exchange is happening it's best to present your thoughts in context rather than relying on the quote chain. "[I]x[/I] is the bigotry of low expectations". I don't care enough to reverse engineer this pithy comment and get it to make sense. We make things that already exist again because our consumer class is retarded and afraid of both new and old things. The answer our wise community elders such as Sphere Hunter have landed on is that all of our most advanced resources of media production should be spent making things that already exist again but superficially [I]new[/I] so that we can all pretend to be excited and act like we have a new thing but not actually encounter anything we haven't seen before. Perfect. The whole energies of our media industries spent comforting people who are afraid to go on magipack or experience something by themselves without a video essay that came out last week telling them what to think. That and apparently we made a fourth Minions movie. I don't think that's comparable to Kamen Rider: Black Sun or Godzilla Minus One. [...] The fact you and so many others care about what are considered frivolous genre works by their creators obviously suggests something overwhelmingly superior in this culture. Beyond that you can call this behaviour a [I]problem[/I], but it's a problem you have, not one they have. You can't suggest that they would be [I]better[/I] if they treated their work as a completely different class of activity. The attitude and process that produced Haruhi is the same one that means it'll probably never end. When you ask for a purposeful drive toward an ending in such a working you're asking for it to be what it is but also not. These people can't meaningfully care about anything. The people who matter become bigger fans of Japan the higher up the human family you look. Imagine if you had spent that time watching The Office. It could be so much worse. You are incidentally touching upon far better things while staring at Japan's lowest stuff. I can try to make a kind of sense of this. You're saying it's better to go back and look through anything that could be potentially interesting rather than things you can only appreciate as you engage with them alongside others in a frivolous and passing fashion? Yes, that's the problem I described above. Seasonal anime is still television. An inherently low format that will only be good for so much. The fact we can even consider there could be something of interest there in one country's niche of animated television is remarkable. Did your declining interest in anime coincide with it getting worse, or did you just develop broader interests and watch most of the older stuff that interested you? Everyone loves Frieren now. I read the manga. I think it's very interesting and compelling stuff for a work obviously made for this kind of passing popular format. It's very cool that this is still possible. Was there ever a period where 4 random series would be amazing every season and something has fundamentally changed since then? Or is this "season" format for the entertainment of a certain class of person in a certain place in life, which no longer includes you? [/QUOTE]
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