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<blockquote data-quote="kino" data-source="post: 17783" data-attributes="member: 335"><p>I was going by sales per season in Japan, which I believe Madoka is very high up on, and Monogatari and Haruhi are also quite high. Obviously bulk will generally beat leaner series in overall sales. I don't see the point of discussing brown audiences when we're talking about what the Japanese public likes.</p><p></p><p>Alya is a rare case of romcom harem actually being the most popular in a season (is it? I haven't checked Oricon in a while) . Look back and think about this, how long ago was the last romcom harem which beat out other series for popularity? I'm not making the assertion that people in Japan don't like romcom and isekai, I'm making the assertion that people in Japan don't like romcom and isekai <em>the most</em>.</p><p></p><p>So is Haruhi, then? If you're arguing that the Japanese mind is predisposed towards harem, maybe this is true. I thought the discussion was about quality? Maybe I've mislead you here, I'm not sure.</p><p></p><p>I don't know that Japanese audiences want anything in particular. I do believe that Japanese people have a good sense of taste, which is why you often find so many popular series in Japan are very good as well. The primary wall in getting good things tends to be the industry rather than the Japanese populace. Look at, for instance, the state of Despera. This is something that a lot of people want, but Japanese companies simply aren't funding it. Similarly, Shishigari isn't being funded. There's a lot of self-sabotage in the anime industry, some of the gears that turned smoothly previously are rusting up. That's the main bottleneck for anime production, not any lack of taste in the Japanese fans.</p><p></p><p>Yes, this is how episodic/monster of the week series generally go. Doctor Who does this, Precure does this, most shows that are episodic have a plot running in the back. How does this disprove my argument that Nisioisin intends for the series to work as an attempt at looking into attitudes towards morality?</p><p></p><p>He does.</p><p></p><p>I'm fairly sure he is thinking about the "long-term development" of Araragi's relationships with the cast, but I doubt he's thinking about their conclusion.</p><p></p><p>Is this because of it's monster-of-the-week format? If not, what's the point of this statement?</p><p></p><p>Are you being willfully ignorant? The reason I brought up Takemoto was to explain that his work involved both Haruhi and various moe shows, to show that he didn't treat these works essentially differently. The point I was trying to make was to try to disprove your notion that actually there are creatorial/audience-based constraints on people and that's why anime is bad.</p><p></p><p>I'm somewhat tired, probably shouldn't have written this now. If you don't understand something I'm saying, just ask me to clarify.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kino, post: 17783, member: 335"] I was going by sales per season in Japan, which I believe Madoka is very high up on, and Monogatari and Haruhi are also quite high. Obviously bulk will generally beat leaner series in overall sales. I don't see the point of discussing brown audiences when we're talking about what the Japanese public likes. Alya is a rare case of romcom harem actually being the most popular in a season (is it? I haven't checked Oricon in a while) . Look back and think about this, how long ago was the last romcom harem which beat out other series for popularity? I'm not making the assertion that people in Japan don't like romcom and isekai, I'm making the assertion that people in Japan don't like romcom and isekai [I]the most[/I]. So is Haruhi, then? If you're arguing that the Japanese mind is predisposed towards harem, maybe this is true. I thought the discussion was about quality? Maybe I've mislead you here, I'm not sure. I don't know that Japanese audiences want anything in particular. I do believe that Japanese people have a good sense of taste, which is why you often find so many popular series in Japan are very good as well. The primary wall in getting good things tends to be the industry rather than the Japanese populace. Look at, for instance, the state of Despera. This is something that a lot of people want, but Japanese companies simply aren't funding it. Similarly, Shishigari isn't being funded. There's a lot of self-sabotage in the anime industry, some of the gears that turned smoothly previously are rusting up. That's the main bottleneck for anime production, not any lack of taste in the Japanese fans. Yes, this is how episodic/monster of the week series generally go. Doctor Who does this, Precure does this, most shows that are episodic have a plot running in the back. How does this disprove my argument that Nisioisin intends for the series to work as an attempt at looking into attitudes towards morality? He does. I'm fairly sure he is thinking about the "long-term development" of Araragi's relationships with the cast, but I doubt he's thinking about their conclusion. Is this because of it's monster-of-the-week format? If not, what's the point of this statement? Are you being willfully ignorant? The reason I brought up Takemoto was to explain that his work involved both Haruhi and various moe shows, to show that he didn't treat these works essentially differently. The point I was trying to make was to try to disprove your notion that actually there are creatorial/audience-based constraints on people and that's why anime is bad. I'm somewhat tired, probably shouldn't have written this now. If you don't understand something I'm saying, just ask me to clarify. [/QUOTE]
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