MIND'S EYE PRESENTS: MOVIE OF THE MONTH [Round 1: October]
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flick, movie, film, kino, whatever you wanna call it...
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did you finish it?
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i’ll finish it tonight
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i can watch it tomorrow
today my shit is FUCKED
today my shit is FUCKED
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wrote a bunch of crap down in notepad while watching it. did not rewatch through it to confirm or rewrite anything that might have been inaccurate and did not read anything that i wrote after i'd typed it, so if anything is dumb or if there's sentences that accidentally cut off halfway through i don't CARE. i'm also incredibly tired so there's probably some stuff that's lame or embarrassing that i don't currently care about either
three completely incompetent, tactless, and immature policemen. fourth one is silent, possibly not an idiot.
kusuda is wheelchair bound but his front door has 2 steps, no rail and no ramp
kusuda could either be distraught from his only family being dead, or from the possibility of being caught from it. policemen notified him what happened in the most irresponsible way they could and are probably responsible for his suicide. although any of the police may have killed him off for some petty reason like avoiding responsibility or thinkingi it was annoying to deal with him
can't tell if the girl at the bakery is actually a 12 year old boy or not
the alcoholic seems to place irrelevant self-centered thoughts and questions above anything that has to do with his actual job. the alcoholic's partner seems to be somewhere between wanting ot be a cool badass detective and a complete laze that wants to slovenly get everything over with committing the least amount of effort, and both these attitudes combined is what caused their horrible efforts at informing kusuda of his sister's suicide
unlike a lot of things with slow, static shots, there's a lot of things in the background here to look at. i don't want to say a lot of "details" to look at, because most of it is just the background of the area they were in, rather than things actually placed there. like the jazz bar is, i assume, an actual jazz bar. but i'd be very surprised if all of the things filling a lot of shots wasn't on purpose
if i watched this as a kid i probably would have not seen that the main characters are all incompetent and annoying and would just see this as an unfolding police mystery
i think i'm an hour into it at this point (they're currently at a ramen place with wooden walls saying their flight is tomorrow,) and i have no idea where this is supposed to be going. their investigating skills are awful and the alcoholic's questioning accidentally happened upon one piece of good information at the bar that he did nothing at all with. i feel like film will fade out with nothing really happening like the middle section of lily chou chou
i forgot to type before, but them all happily chatting about absolutely nothing while kusada was shouting in despair solidified my first impressions of all the cops
if this jazz bar is a real bar i want to find out what it's called
i'm not sure at all what's meant to be signified by the repeating shots of the alcoholic staring at something then the camera panning to it over and over. sometimes it's showing a person there and then another person, but sometimes it's just nothing and then nothing. the only thing i can think of is there's a kind of shutter island or fight club situation happening, but that still doesn't tell me what those shots signify
considering the start of the film there was something about the alcoholic not having done any work for months, this whole thing might be a delusion and none of these other cops might be real. kusuda had rope marks around his neck, so it might've been that he's a desperate, washed up nobody who's creating his own murder mystery and has either not yet realized it or is suppressing reality in favour of a detective fantasy. a lot of the interactions make sense if he's the only person actually there, including the part-time girl at the bar not existing and being seen for a few seconds a couple scenes earlier during another repeating-shot thing. the silent cop might be silent because it's someone he worked with before but didn't know the personality of. him having a long conversation with himself makes sense for why the bar owner just abandoned the front of the shop for this whole scene. i want to know if her name is actually nobuko or not, considering all this
now the alcohlic has just directly said he has hallucinations and delusions. i guess that's not much of a mystery anymore. i'm leaning heavily towards this being him creating his own murder mystery now, but i'm no longer sure that kusuda died. or even existed. or that the girl in tokyo existed either. also finding it notable that the bar manager only comes back once the other guy leaves. makes me lean more towards him not being real too. bar manager's personality and attitude seems to be very different than the first time they met, too
is that phone he watched the murder video on the same phone that the part-time girl who doesn't exist answered a call on? is that video supposed to mean he recorded it on the phone? is it supposed to be that it's just a video online? just a scene from some film, and he's basing this fantasy off of that? Dunno. don't care.
the alcoholic ALMOST looks cool. he looks too old and rugged to be cool, though. but he looks old in a way where he looks like he looks older than he actually is. also it just switched to him sitting on a hotel bed with 2 yakuza-looking guys and i have no idea who they are or what that meant
why are his tears coming out of the middle of one of his eyes
the hotel owner was shot and i don't really understand what's going on.
the bar manager let him sleep at her house, but she called him murata. i don't think he ever said his name to her, so this probably isn't real
house being abandoned makes me think the entire thing being a fantasy is right. and that stereotypical spiked hair yakuza-looking guy outside the house, if he's a real person then him with the chopped up girl in the bathroom seems like the alcoholic is thinking "he looks like the type that could've done it" then picturing him as the murderer. and if he's not real then he'd just be trying to think of somebody that would be the kind of person to do it
maybe this is the filmmaker not knowing where to take the story and not being able to decide where the story goes or what twist it might have and just inserting all of the ideas that were unable to be fleshed out or didn't make sense or otherwise didn't make it. and just as i started typing that, murata said "you take a malicious pleasure in changing the story at will"
and when saeki says says "there's still someone else" is that meant to be You, The Viewer? that seems meaningless though
now that he's re-woken up for the 500,000th time again in her house and they're eating breakfast together, i don't understand why she's acting like he's a friend instead of some drunk bum she let sleep over cause he was passed out in the middle of the street. why is he saying they should go drive together and why is she agreeing
he just ate a tomato. gross
also surely this part isn't real. why would she agree to living with him
all in all i don't get it but it looked cool thanks for reading
kusuda is wheelchair bound but his front door has 2 steps, no rail and no ramp
kusuda could either be distraught from his only family being dead, or from the possibility of being caught from it. policemen notified him what happened in the most irresponsible way they could and are probably responsible for his suicide. although any of the police may have killed him off for some petty reason like avoiding responsibility or thinkingi it was annoying to deal with him
can't tell if the girl at the bakery is actually a 12 year old boy or not
the alcoholic seems to place irrelevant self-centered thoughts and questions above anything that has to do with his actual job. the alcoholic's partner seems to be somewhere between wanting ot be a cool badass detective and a complete laze that wants to slovenly get everything over with committing the least amount of effort, and both these attitudes combined is what caused their horrible efforts at informing kusuda of his sister's suicide
unlike a lot of things with slow, static shots, there's a lot of things in the background here to look at. i don't want to say a lot of "details" to look at, because most of it is just the background of the area they were in, rather than things actually placed there. like the jazz bar is, i assume, an actual jazz bar. but i'd be very surprised if all of the things filling a lot of shots wasn't on purpose
if i watched this as a kid i probably would have not seen that the main characters are all incompetent and annoying and would just see this as an unfolding police mystery
i think i'm an hour into it at this point (they're currently at a ramen place with wooden walls saying their flight is tomorrow,) and i have no idea where this is supposed to be going. their investigating skills are awful and the alcoholic's questioning accidentally happened upon one piece of good information at the bar that he did nothing at all with. i feel like film will fade out with nothing really happening like the middle section of lily chou chou
i forgot to type before, but them all happily chatting about absolutely nothing while kusada was shouting in despair solidified my first impressions of all the cops
if this jazz bar is a real bar i want to find out what it's called
i'm not sure at all what's meant to be signified by the repeating shots of the alcoholic staring at something then the camera panning to it over and over. sometimes it's showing a person there and then another person, but sometimes it's just nothing and then nothing. the only thing i can think of is there's a kind of shutter island or fight club situation happening, but that still doesn't tell me what those shots signify
considering the start of the film there was something about the alcoholic not having done any work for months, this whole thing might be a delusion and none of these other cops might be real. kusuda had rope marks around his neck, so it might've been that he's a desperate, washed up nobody who's creating his own murder mystery and has either not yet realized it or is suppressing reality in favour of a detective fantasy. a lot of the interactions make sense if he's the only person actually there, including the part-time girl at the bar not existing and being seen for a few seconds a couple scenes earlier during another repeating-shot thing. the silent cop might be silent because it's someone he worked with before but didn't know the personality of. him having a long conversation with himself makes sense for why the bar owner just abandoned the front of the shop for this whole scene. i want to know if her name is actually nobuko or not, considering all this
now the alcohlic has just directly said he has hallucinations and delusions. i guess that's not much of a mystery anymore. i'm leaning heavily towards this being him creating his own murder mystery now, but i'm no longer sure that kusuda died. or even existed. or that the girl in tokyo existed either. also finding it notable that the bar manager only comes back once the other guy leaves. makes me lean more towards him not being real too. bar manager's personality and attitude seems to be very different than the first time they met, too
is that phone he watched the murder video on the same phone that the part-time girl who doesn't exist answered a call on? is that video supposed to mean he recorded it on the phone? is it supposed to be that it's just a video online? just a scene from some film, and he's basing this fantasy off of that? Dunno. don't care.
the alcoholic ALMOST looks cool. he looks too old and rugged to be cool, though. but he looks old in a way where he looks like he looks older than he actually is. also it just switched to him sitting on a hotel bed with 2 yakuza-looking guys and i have no idea who they are or what that meant
why are his tears coming out of the middle of one of his eyes
the hotel owner was shot and i don't really understand what's going on.
the bar manager let him sleep at her house, but she called him murata. i don't think he ever said his name to her, so this probably isn't real
house being abandoned makes me think the entire thing being a fantasy is right. and that stereotypical spiked hair yakuza-looking guy outside the house, if he's a real person then him with the chopped up girl in the bathroom seems like the alcoholic is thinking "he looks like the type that could've done it" then picturing him as the murderer. and if he's not real then he'd just be trying to think of somebody that would be the kind of person to do it
maybe this is the filmmaker not knowing where to take the story and not being able to decide where the story goes or what twist it might have and just inserting all of the ideas that were unable to be fleshed out or didn't make sense or otherwise didn't make it. and just as i started typing that, murata said "you take a malicious pleasure in changing the story at will"
and when saeki says says "there's still someone else" is that meant to be You, The Viewer? that seems meaningless though
now that he's re-woken up for the 500,000th time again in her house and they're eating breakfast together, i don't understand why she's acting like he's a friend instead of some drunk bum she let sleep over cause he was passed out in the middle of the street. why is he saying they should go drive together and why is she agreeing
he just ate a tomato. gross
also surely this part isn't real. why would she agree to living with him
all in all i don't get it but it looked cool thanks for reading
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was it actually "surrealism" or no?