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[SowiesoGroyp]

@sneed idk i need to research the sede position. i already bought a book which does apologetics for vatican II but its extremely dry.

i dont think francis is the anti-christ, or the false prophet. but its all leading up to that

i'm not convinced on the Biblical basis for a pope in the first place so building that even further out into a prophesized "anti-pope" is even more lost on me

 

[Slerk]

matthew 16 ... acts 1 bro

a + b = c

a = Peter is the DELEGATED head of the church (matthew 16)
b = Mattias replaces the office of judas (acts 1)
c = Peters office is replaced after his death and there is apostolic succession to this day

 

[muttonhead]

muttonhead should not be dabbling with sedevacantism before he even believes in catholicism at all

cool ur ego bro. learn anything before making nuanced distinctions

sedevacantism doesnt seem like a “nuanced distinction” its actually a pretty extreme opinion to think the vatican is occupied by a demonic fat nigger.

also i understand catholicism enuff to know i reject orthodoxy and all forms of protestantism. wat am i supposed to do read the entire summa before getting confirm’d?

and also idk if i should get confirmed if sedevacantism is real UMMMMMM woops

 

[Slerk]

get confirmed in novus ordo it should be fine. i believe the sacrements are fine
step 1 is go to a latin mass if avaliable
step 2 is be based in personal life

thats all one can really do

 

[Slerk]

the best guide to sedevacantism is to follow your conscious about right and wrong from the basis of your very thorough knowledge of scripture in addition to the knowledge you have of the church.

you cant make yourself a pope or put yourself in automatic opposition to whatever the vatican does, but once you have a well built conscious you will be able to distinguish where you can reasonably descent IE Fidicia Supplicans

 

[Slerk]

@avoidingbabylon on youtube
this shows host anthony is right about everything. His cohost that is the zoomer is too radical but sometimes ok. His other cohost rob is also usually right about everything. They have a few guests that are too radical but this is the sweet middle ground where you are between SSPX and Catholic

Context:
Sede - not part of church
SSPX - deny vatican 2, sort of ambiguously part of the church
[Here is about where Avoiding babylon is]
FSSP - John Paul II kosher version of SSPX, totally part of the church
Normie Catholic

 

[SowiesoGroyp]

the best guide to sedevacantism is to follow your conscious about right and wrong from the basis of your very thorough knowledge of scripture in addition to the knowledge you have of the church.

you cant make yourself a pope or put yourself in automatic opposition to whatever the vatican does, but once you have a well built conscious you will be able to distinguish where you can reasonably descent IE Fidicia Supplicans

where does the zeus worship fit into this

 

[Slerk]

zeus jesus dont u get it bro?

 

[muttonhead]

so do sedes consider themselves “true catholics” whereas catholics who drunk the vatican 2 koolaid are instruments of satan?

i spent so much time sperging over the theological differences between denominations that im inclined to just say fuck you

 

[Slerk]

Sedes are not a monolithic group at all unfortunately
Closer to the Vatican 2 swamp is safer. I reallly wouldnt fly to far off the rails. Right now trads are just in a waiting zone for Francis to die to see if the problem gets worse or not before they decide to do anything crazy.

I personally do not believe in Vatican 2 at all because of how much coal comes out of it but the average trad says it is a pastoral council or it didnt change any doctrine so it doesnt really matter