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here’s another one
this is also a clip of like 5 local guys without rousseau being there
what he needs is footage of a significant amount of people, locals thanking them, and emotional music playing in the background
 

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this is also a clip of like 5 local guys without rousseau being there
what he needs is footage of a significant amount of people, locals thanking them, and emotional music playing in the background
that would be way better than any of his speeches
 

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in relation to the current groyper vs wignat drama, it seems like a waste of time to countersignal pf/ac tbh. they’re gonna do what they’re gonna do. if you think ppl that join are dumb and going to jail just say that and let it be, no reason to try and convince them to drop their thing. plus i like the look and how they market theirselves

groups like blood tribe and gdl just suck and are bad.
 

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most of the pf crowd are trade school or military types. even if they did get arrested/doxed i don’t think that hurts you as bad if ur like a welder or mechanic or wtvr. i used to be staunchly against them but my perspective has changed. they’re useful for security at events, hands-on volunteer work you can claim, ballot harvesting, anything else you need real bodies for but don’t want your own “elite” ppl doxed.
 

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disaster relief feels different to me than black panther soup kitchen type stuff
 

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most of the pf crowd are trade school or military types. even if they did get arrested/doxed i don’t think that hurts you as bad if ur like a welder or mechanic or wtvr. i used to be staunchly against them but my perspective has changed. they’re useful for security at events, hands-on volunteer work you can claim, ballot harvesting, anything else you need real bodies for but don’t want your own “elite” ppl doxed.
The problem is that all of that makes sense and is all well and good until feds decide to frame the group for something horrible, which inevitably happens if the group grows past a certain point of influence without attracting some nutter who does what the feds would do. This really isn't a "problem" though as all of this is a natural process and eventually a group will succeed against the odds and gain some real influence without a huge disaster destroying it. I would stay away from any group doing PF type stuff and not have high expectations for people drawn to that sort of group, but I also don't have any real problem with people doing stupid stuff for good reasons as long as it doesn't harm me.
 

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The problem is that all of that makes sense and is all well and good until feds decide to frame the group for something horrible, which inevitably happens if the group grows past a certain point of influence without attracting some nutter who does what the feds would do.
ik thats what "usually" happens but pf has been around since 2017 and for wtvr reason they haven't had anything horrible tacked on to them as far as im aware. they're bigger than identity europa and atomwaffen ever were so its not like the feds couldnt stage an op now.

maybe they're waiting for the group to be more widely accepted? im not sure :pipe:
 

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ik thats what "usually" happens but pf has been around since 2017 and for wtvr reason they haven't had anything horrible tacked on to them as far as im aware. they're bigger than identity europa and atomwaffen ever were so its not like the feds couldnt stage an op now.

maybe they're waiting for the group to be more widley accepted? im not sure :pipe:
I understand the criticisms of these groups and the risks involved, but I think that if our ideas are ever going to foster real change , regular dudes irl are going to be unavoidable, and necessary. Perhaps it is to soon because our hypothetical team of 1000 rich geniuses haven't set the stage for change. But are we sure which comes first? Are we sure its too soon and not too late? The fucking FBI isn't just going away. Not even soon like they aren't going away until the nukes go off. Spitballing here
 
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