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[vagabond]

I completely read roosh v's old pua books "bang" and "day bang", -

some more on venue selection which is prob most important tbh, night venues are separated into bars and nightclubs, bars are places u get alcohol, nightclubs are the same but u dance, I think dancing is cringe and for ugly rizzless manlets and browns tbhhh, because if u r a social retard but can memorize some dance moves u can skip all conversation skill and move straight to physical escalation, the worst is actually dedicated dance places that people do SOBER! no time to talk to the girl and u cant escalate physically unless u have whatever retarded dance down perfectly, i prefered more relaxed bars where people drink a little but dont get super wasted and the women r just chilling waiting 4 u to approach them, def warm and ready 2 b rizzed, if the nightclub people get wasted and its more negroidal then u can just shimmy around and hoes just twerk on u if ur tall / handsome / have money (or fake it), the more white the dance club is the more u have 2 autist learn the dance moves, and u have retarded browns trying 2 own u by getting the hoe 2 dance with them (this is why niggers always shoot each other outside night clubs), and many men r super pressed if ur white tall etc and all the hoes r rolling up 2 u, so I say avoid nightclubs or if u really like dancing farm the white dance clubs bcause if ur actually good at whatever retarded country line dancing or whatever girls will b ez there, but wasted hoe nightclubs the women r super hoes so idk, i think dance clubs r all more pussy worship bcause the women can farm attention from like 100 men in 1 night.
So i go with a quieter chill bar where u can show ur social mastery instead of some retardd dance moves.... And if u get in tight at a bar u can use that as the place u swap 2 from the first date and feel like its ur home turf, coffe shop or w.e. u go to first. if u tried 2 bring a girl 2 a dance club get ready for 1000 fat mexicans to look at you awkwardly thinking u will allow them 2 dance with ur hoe u farmed 4. or if shes an attention slut she will try 2 use the thirsty mexicans against u, and u dont even get to chat that much, which 4 whatever reason u have 2 like hit a character limit with women b4 you are not a "stranger" with them anymore via small talk bullshittery.

Day venues that r goated, college campus (duh), clothing stores aimed at yng hoes, actually thrift stores which is a W because the women their are poor (but way rarer to see a hot girl there ! but they r there, in one day of farming thrift stores in my city (focus downtown / near a college campus / near apartments) usally big city downtowns are the only area in america that has a gender imbalance in FAVOR of men, sex inthe city etc, and ovbiously colleges have giga gender imbalance, so farm ur day game spots near there. Coffe shops / cafes are goated as well because women will just go there on their laptops and not be doing anything really for an hour at least. Idk other ones tbh idk wth women do cause im a man, pretty much a day game spot that is good is anywhere women stay for 30 minutes and would be somewhat open to conversation. u need 15 min of elderly talk into baiting her 2 ask a personal question into 5 minutes 2 ask her age location name where she hangs into # then exit.

if ur trying 2 hit on a cashier girl it can be easy if the store is empty and she smiles at you first, NEVER SMILE FIRST!!, only reciprocate her smile, if she smiles its an sign she likes ur tall handsome white face W, or she gets tips, u can also build up familiarty by shopping there weekly and always making a joke / small talk, they will remeber you if they like you and you make a comment into 5 min at least of talk, but dont be afraid and try 2 build it up if shes super open first time, women will go from wanting 2 bang u 2 hating u birth control etc their insane, it really is like sales where its more about right place right time and only 30% ur rizz / sales pitch, and just doing the numbers game, but it will feel less shitty gettin rejected if u elderly game + think of it as honing ur skills + ur not a beta soy cuck who cares what women think abt u, I approached at my worst record 30 women (at least 5s on the hot scale) b4 i got 1 #, but the good thing abt day game is women r scared that you are a rapist so they wont try 2 own u for social ego boost like in a bar or night club.

also bars and clubs literally every 7+ had a fat friend / a cock blocker that u had 2 defeat 2 get 2 her its crazy vvs day game they r alone and afraid of u at first untill u warm em up and show ur not going 2 drag em in the bushes rapist style by mimicing an elderly semi senile confused man who wants to know if her phone can run tons of apps without slowing down (a literal phone opener + follow up ramble i have used with # success lol). i actually have found rizzing cashier women 2 b the easiest, mayb cause of power differntial cause they r literally serving u lol (do not try to rizz waitresses like slave said they r tip farmers and its not ur dick tip bro) as I said best is empty store with a girl who looks semi bored and smiled at you when you made eye contact with her on entering the store would b ideal, also if u see out of the corner of u eye she looks at u for more than a glance, (not to brag but ive had women look at me for 4+ seconds b4 i look at them and then they smile and look away) this is prob the most ideal u can get almost a warm apporach at that point, but still as long as when u run ur elderly game she maitains eye contact and continues 2 face you u just need more time 2 warm her up or shes just feeling really chatty for w.e. reason.

no the most IDEAL scenario I had WHICH I FUMBLED has a cashier girl (prob underage tbh) was staring at me and I looked back at her like twice to see if she was still staring and she was and then she smiled big at me and I smiled back liek a goofy retard lol, i was 10% bf at this time so I must have been super facially chisled and had boots on so I was really tall, but it was just time and place luck tbh, i fumbled cause i went for the # immediatly like a RETARD, instead of trying to warm er up a little, the example showing that even if she is super into u, ur going 2 have to warm her up b4 rizzing her, and it was hard cause their were like 4 boomers behind me in line so I didnt have a lot of time to try 2 rizzzzzz, but i legit should have just held the boomers up, w.e. its over im hanging my self if fi think abt this fumble again

 

[vagabond]

[hitler ascent bio link that i cant link cause im a nigger memeber with negative rep fml

bro i hate historians like this nigger im trying to read and every fucking paragraph he ends with some faggot snide remark about how hitler was totally "unstable", literally just like erm he needed "help" but from some phd nigger faggot historian, im just going to read the guys book that all the history niggers refrence by his friend its literally the only source and he is glazing hitler so hard every modern historian has to preamble blupill abt how he is biased, still the best hitler bio i have read was by john toland, least snide faggot remarks untill the holohoax section and losing at stalingrad

 

[mochi]

some more on venue selection which is prob most important tbh, night venues are separated into bars and nightclubs, bars are places u get alcohol, nightclubs are the same but u dance, I think dancing is cringe and for ugly rizzless manlets and browns tbhhh, because if u r a social retard but can memorize some dance moves u can skip all conversation skill and move straight to physical escalation, the worst is actually dedicated dance places that people do SOBER! no time to talk to the girl and u cant escalate physically unless u have whatever retarded dance down perfectly, i prefered more relaxed bars where people drink a little but dont get super wasted and the women r just chilling waiting 4 u to approach them, def warm and ready 2 b rizzed, if the nightclub people get wasted and its more negroidal then u can just shimmy around and hoes just twerk on u if ur tall / handsome / have money (or fake it), the more white the dance club is the more u have 2 autist learn the dance moves, and u have retarded browns trying 2 own u by getting the hoe 2 dance with them (this is why niggers always shoot each other outside night clubs), and many men r super pressed if ur white tall etc and all the hoes r rolling up 2 u, so I say avoid nightclubs or if u really like dancing farm the white dance clubs bcause if ur actually good at whatever retarded country line dancing or whatever girls will b ez there, but wasted hoe nightclubs the women r super hoes so idk, i think dance clubs r all more pussy worship bcause the women can farm attention from like 100 men in 1 night.
So i go with a quieter chill bar where u can show ur social mastery instead of some retardd dance moves.... And if u get in tight at a bar u can use that as the place u swap 2 from the first date and feel like its ur home turf, coffe shop or w.e. u go to first. if u tried 2 bring a girl 2 a dance club get ready for 1000 fat mexicans to look at you awkwardly thinking u will allow them 2 dance with ur hoe u farmed 4. or if shes an attention slut she will try 2 use the thirsty mexicans against u, and u dont even get to chat that much, which 4 whatever reason u have 2 like hit a character limit with women b4 you are not a "stranger" with them anymore via small talk bullshittery.

Day venues that r goated, college campus (duh), clothing stores aimed at yng hoes, actually thrift stores which is a W because the women their are poor (but way rarer to see a hot girl there ! but they r there, in one day of farming thrift stores in my city (focus downtown / near a college campus / near apartments) usally big city downtowns are the only area in america that has a gender imbalance in FAVOR of men, sex inthe city etc, and ovbiously colleges have giga gender imbalance, so farm ur day game spots near there. Coffe shops / cafes are goated as well because women will just go there on their laptops and not be doing anything really for an hour at least. Idk other ones tbh idk wth women do cause im a man, pretty much a day game spot that is good is anywhere women stay for 30 minutes and would be somewhat open to conversation. u need 15 min of elderly talk into baiting her 2 ask a personal question into 5 minutes 2 ask her age location name where she hangs into # then exit.

if ur trying 2 hit on a cashier girl it can be easy if the store is empty and she smiles at you first, NEVER SMILE FIRST!!, only reciprocate her smile, if she smiles its an sign she likes ur tall handsome white face W, or she gets tips, u can also build up familiarty by shopping there weekly and always making a joke / small talk, they will remeber you if they like you and you make a comment into 5 min at least of talk, but dont be afraid and try 2 build it up if shes super open first time, women will go from wanting 2 bang u 2 hating u birth control etc their insane, it really is like sales where its more about right place right time and only 30% ur rizz / sales pitch, and just doing the numbers game, but it will feel less shitty gettin rejected if u elderly game + think of it as honing ur skills + ur not a beta soy cuck who cares what women think abt u, I approached at my worst record 30 women (at least 5s on the hot scale) b4 i got 1 #, but the good thing abt day game is women r scared that you are a rapist so they wont try 2 own u for social ego boost like in a bar or night club.

also bars and clubs literally every 7+ had a fat friend / a cock blocker that u had 2 defeat 2 get 2 her its crazy vvs day game they r alone and afraid of u at first untill u warm em up and show ur not going 2 drag em in the bushes rapist style by mimicing an elderly semi senile confused man who wants to know if her phone can run tons of apps without slowing down (a literal phone opener + follow up ramble i have used with # success lol). i actually have found rizzing cashier women 2 b the easiest, mayb cause of power differntial cause they r literally serving u lol (do not try to rizz waitresses like slave said they r tip farmers and its not ur dick tip bro) as I said best is empty store with a girl who looks semi bored and smiled at you when you made eye contact with her on entering the store would b ideal, also if u see out of the corner of u eye she looks at u for more than a glance, (not to brag but ive had women look at me for 4+ seconds b4 i look at them and then they smile and look away) this is prob the most ideal u can get almost a warm apporach at that point, but still as long as when u run ur elderly game she maitains eye contact and continues 2 face you u just need more time 2 warm her up or shes just feeling really chatty for w.e. reason.

no the most IDEAL scenario I had WHICH I FUMBLED has a cashier girl (prob underage tbh) was staring at me and I looked back at her like twice to see if she was still staring and she was and then she smiled big at me and I smiled back liek a goofy retard lol, i was 10% bf at this time so I must have been super facially chisled and had boots on so I was really tall, but it was just time and place luck tbh, i fumbled cause i went for the # immediatly like a RETARD, instead of trying to warm er up a little, the example showing that even if she is super into u, ur going 2 have to warm her up b4 rizzing her, and it was hard cause their were like 4 boomers behind me in line so I didnt have a lot of time to try 2 rizzzzzz, but i legit should have just held the boomers up, w.e. its over im hanging my self if fi think abt this fumble again

I completely read roosh v's old pua books "bang" and "day bang",

Did i need to read 600 pages of books to understand how to talk to women, was it really necessary for my development of this social skill? Yes, for the first time in my life a month ago I told a woman I liked her, something most boys do in middle school I delayed until my 20s, but once I did it once I could do it again with ease, and It feels very rewarding to be able to do something most men are afraid of and cannot do without being inebriated and with loud music blasting, totally stone cold sober. In summary of the books in bang he tells you to be over confident in bars and clubs, to kind of jester a little bit, etc, then try 2 bang the hoe the same night via switching venue to make her think she has known u for longer, then escalate touching (he has a whole autistic guide on when to do which touches and where and how to gauge reaction), etc untill shes in ur bed, funniest line was he said if shes not letting u in her apartment say u have to pee (lmaooo) to get in, it works every time.

In day bang its totally diff, to try to rizz hoes at daytime he reccommends "elderly game" aka how old people try to talk to you in public, open with a question relating to something in the shared enviorment and then follow up by rambling for 5 minutes minimum about whatever thing u opened on, as you ramble spice it up with "bait" related to yourself to get her to ask a personal question about you "when I went on a road trip I lost my phone" she could ask where or how u lost ur phone etc if u opened on her phone "Excuse me, is that a good phone?" follow up rambling about different phone models, showing u r not a rpaist and more like an old man, etc. then after like a plesent 15 minute conversation where she intiates more personal questions secure her # and peace out, then refer to bang for text rizz (it dosent exsist, u just try 2 get the hoe on a first date thats it) then u get first date rizz where he just says 2 go somewhere neaturalll like a coffe shop and then venue swap 2 a chill bar to get her a little inebriated then intiate physical escalation by touching her hand w.e, then try 2 get her 2 ur crib, on first date u can display more rizz because she will b more relaxed then when shes buying clothes whereever, so then u just try 2 secure the bang, he says if shes goes on a first date it just becomes a question of how many dates u need 2 slog thru b4 she gives up the gooey hole. so just labor thru it as long as it takes like farming lvl 1 slime it can give good exp with enough time. if ur ego isnt tied up in it and shes just another girl 2 u it becomes a lot more fun 2 practice new lines and see how far u can push it. really ur just trying 2 get her alone in ur or her room and then just spam makeout button and moving ur hands on her body 2 more and more sexual parts till ur banging, so W tbh. didnt seem complicated past the cold approach farming venues (coffe shop, clotheing stores, w.e women do) and text + first date.

Cold approach most giga chad way to show that u dgaf about what women think about you,, it is "creep" or "weirdo" behaviour if u fail kinda, so if ur pressed by made up social standards enforced by retarded women u cannot cold approach, so I think day game is best quickest way to overcome innate fear of female social consensus, and once done it is like the final capstone of social skills, idk, im leaning towards concubine better than porn jerking tbh, jerking without porn prob bttr 2 relieave sexual tension but who can keep up jerkin without porn, not me, so I pursure concubine, and unfourtunatly we live in a co-ed soyciety and u will have to interact with women so being able to talk 2 them is W. idk im prob coping

got to be honest man i think i’d rather kill myself

 

[vagabond]

got to be honest man i think i’d rather kill myself

yes it is cringe, but unfourtunatly i cannot buy women, so if U want a wife u have 2 learn how to rizz women, cause even if the ideal wife cums along, if u rizzz isnt good u will miss oppurtunity, from Christian perspective, every married chud at my church either met the girl in like middle / high school / college, and was social circle selected by the women (passive and beta tbh, these r the married men that nick talks abt that are just husks completly dominated by their wives bcause they r in scarcity mindset tbh) or they r guys who were former "players" who "repented" of banging hoes and used the same rizz techniques to get a nice christian wife from a church,

and then group 3 is the young men like me and my bros who make the wives uncomfterbal when we debate hitler W or L after communion, and all the yng guys jerk it 2 porn btw, even most giga based Christian guy I know maxxed out at 1 YEAR no fap, i maxxed out at 3 months cause im hypersexual, so the new debate ive been having is getting a concubine and banging her worse or better sin than jerking to porn because no fap is a meme for men age 18-25, and all the married guys r banging their wives twice a week so they dont care abt our struggle, i of course am pro concubine (i say concubine because saying "girlfriend" implies ur a beta cuck who is emotinally attached 2 the female, i just want sexual release seperate from porn) cause porn is nasty tbh, and ive never had sex, all the young guys who have had sex say it is worse than porn, but i cant see it because porn u r passive loser vs being the actual sex haver, i think they r just afraid of being in relation with a woman because they were all sex havers in middle / highschool when boys r totally dominated mentally by women and they dont want 2 get like that again so porn is a good way 2 avoid having to ever risk that weakness again,

so thoughts? porn or having sex worse from Christian perspective? I think if we were in a real Christian soyciety we would all have been married at age 16-20 so this is only a modern problem where church "leaders" are expecting men to stay celibate till 29 to marry some roastie because they are dominated by their wives who want their daughters 2 go to college in stead of marrying young (I do not think marrying young is good at all anymore and most rush into it cause they want cummies) but still it is a weird situation all teh young Christian men are struggling with in the modern world and I believe now that concubine is best option from bad ones.... thoughts from groyper intellectuals apreciated...

 

[resu]

so thoughts? porn or having sex worse from Christian perspective? I think if we were in a real Christian soyciety we would all have been married at age 16-20 so this is only a modern problem where church "leaders" are expecting men to stay celibate till 29 to marry some roastie because they are dominated by their wives who want their daughters 2 go to college in stead of marrying young (I do not think marrying young is good at all anymore and most rush into it cause they want cummies) but still it is a weird situation all teh young Christian men are struggling with in the modern world and I believe now that concubine is best option from bad ones.... thoughts from groyper intellectuals apreciated...

St. Thomas thought that "simple fornication, which is committed without injustice to another person, is the least grave among the species of lust." (See here.) Earlier, however, he wrote that "nothing but mortal sin debars a man from God's kingdom. But fornication debars him, as shown by the words of the Apostle (Galatians 5:21), who after mentioning fornication and certain other vices, adds: 'They who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.' Therefore simple fornication is a mortal sin." So we're still bound to celibacy if we can't get married. The more you lament it, the harder it becomes to bear. And, anyway, if you don't plan on getting married, I think it's especially unwise to awaken an appetite that may not easily be satiated.

 

[$lave]

bro i hate historians like this nigger im trying to read and every fucking paragraph he ends with some faggot snide remark about how hitler was totally "unstable", literally just like erm he needed "help" but from some phd nigger faggot historian, im just going to read the guys book that all the history niggers refrence by his friend its literally the only source and he is glazing hitler so hard every modern historian has to preamble blupill abt how he is biased, still the best hitler bio i have read was by john toland, least snide faggot remarks untill the holohoax section and losing at stalingrad

ya it sucks but he's a lot less annoying than shirer so far. from what i can tell this is the most recent and comprehensive biography on hitler, it's ok so far :/ i was expecting it to be more like kotkin's stalin and it doesn't rlly feel that way at all

 

[vagabond]

St. Thomas thought that "simple fornication, which is committed without injustice to another person, is the least grave among the species of lust." (See here.) Earlier, however, he wrote that "nothing but mortal sin debars a man from God's kingdom. But fornication debars him, as shown by the words of the Apostle (Galatians 5:21), who after mentioning fornication and certain other vices, adds: 'They who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.' Therefore simple fornication is a mortal sin." So we're still bound to celibacy if we can't get married. The more you lament it, the harder it becomes to bear. And, anyway, if you don't plan on getting married, I think it's especially unwise to awaken an appetite that may not easily be satiated.

wait so is "simple fornication" jerking off? I thought jerking was like sodomy? or "onanism"? What if I marry a girl in church just so I can have sexy time and then get an anullment or w.e.? sorry if cringe Im just on no-fap day 10 and gettting really horny

 

[vagabond]

St. Thomas thought that "simple fornication, which is committed without injustice to another person, is the least grave among the species of lust." (See here.) Earlier, however, he wrote that "nothing but mortal sin debars a man from God's kingdom. But fornication debars him, as shown by the words of the Apostle (Galatians 5:21), who after mentioning fornication and certain other vices, adds: 'They who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.' Therefore simple fornication is a mortal sin." So we're still bound to celibacy if we can't get married. The more you lament it, the harder it becomes to bear. And, anyway, if you don't plan on getting married, I think it's especially unwise to awaken an appetite that may not easily be satiated.

and more practical HOW CAN I EVEN GET A WIFE IF IM AN INCEL FREAK WHO HAS NEVER HAD SEX????? should i just try to rizz women up to the point of fornication as practice? or stay total incel never talk 2 women mode and hope God drops a wife into my lap..... I know its wrong but I literally had a priest say something along the lines after some young guy complained that their were no women in the church 2 marry, "flirt 2 convert"? so hes telling us to learn 2 seduce women and make them convert and then marry them??? how can I freaking learn to seduce women and not have sex with them....

 

[SowiesoGroyp]

japanese people call masturbation onani even though they don't read the Bible so they don't know it's a Genesis reference. (no one says senzuri)

 

[vagabond]

St. Thomas thought that "simple fornication, which is committed without injustice to another person, is the least grave among the species of lust." (See here.) Earlier, however, he wrote that "nothing but mortal sin debars a man from God's kingdom. But fornication debars him, as shown by the words of the Apostle (Galatians 5:21), who after mentioning fornication and certain other vices, adds: 'They who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.' Therefore simple fornication is a mortal sin." So we're still bound to celibacy if we can't get married. The more you lament it, the harder it becomes to bear. And, anyway, if you don't plan on getting married, I think it's especially unwise to awaken an appetite that may not easily be satiated.

also when he wrote this marriage age was like 20 or w.e., and dosent he approve of brothels somewhere else?